tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281000668036619727.post8307663473937552681..comments2023-10-30T05:46:59.343-04:00Comments on The Doubting Writer: The Heel TurnJeffOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07947660745120963286noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281000668036619727.post-9864960852594355222014-06-01T05:52:25.037-04:002014-06-01T05:52:25.037-04:00Hello, b. Touch, and thanks for stopping by and sh...Hello, b. Touch, and thanks for stopping by and sharing that. I see your point, and that of the director. Many films and books (and especially Disney ones) telegraph those twists so much that an adult audience, at any rate, can see the heel turn come a mile away. Frozen definitely did some things right, and definitely turned some things on its head. I still feel, however, based on my one and only viewing, that it was too much out of left field. Thanks for commenting!JeffOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07947660745120963286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281000668036619727.post-19764800540550126642014-05-31T13:04:26.017-04:002014-05-31T13:04:26.017-04:00Re: "Frozen" - in interviews, the screen...Re: "Frozen" - in interviews, the screenwriter and co-director, Jennifer Lee, pointed out that she fought the producers and story artists over including any overt indications of Hans being evil before his reveal. She wanted him to be a complete psychopath, and the best kind - the one everyone believes, and to hang a lampshade on the Disney trope of "love at first sight".<br /><br />There are teeny, tiny hints of who Hans really is buried deep into "Love is an Open Door" and the fact that, when he confronts Queen Elsa about to kill the two marksmen from Weselton, he clearly looks up and purposefully (not accidentally) brings down that chancelier over Elsa's head with one of their crossbows.<br /><br />I actually like the idea that we were given practically nothing to go on - it made the turn that much of a shock. If we'd known, the entire second half of the second act would have been revealed to be in vain far too early. And plus, often in life, you never find out who's truly evil until it's too late.b. Touchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00878364726248184167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281000668036619727.post-75558050523496877572014-01-28T23:03:37.731-05:002014-01-28T23:03:37.731-05:00Great post! I'm behind in blog reading obvious...Great post! I'm behind in blog reading obviously. I'm struggling with changes I need to make in Hold Still right now and this post kind of confirmed for me what I was thinking! I didn't read the book but we watch the series, Game of Thrones and Ned was my favorite character exactly because of how honorable he was--I was devastated when he died but you're right, it was still in character. Frozen was completely shocking. Lisa Reganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12899014095250160853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281000668036619727.post-27698851027152492672014-01-05T20:13:35.189-05:002014-01-05T20:13:35.189-05:00Well, then, I hope they're not spoiled for you...Well, then, I hope they're not spoiled for you! I haven't read Agatha Christie in ages, I may have to take a look.JeffOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07947660745120963286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281000668036619727.post-35087697666152980452014-01-04T10:06:26.665-05:002014-01-04T10:06:26.665-05:00Haven't read/watched either of those yet but I...Haven't read/watched either of those yet but I totally agree. When the action is out of absolutely nowhere and out of character it drives me nuts! Agatha Christie was an author who often had me rereading and enjoying all those hints I missed the first time! :)Jemi Fraserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02214408467456320167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281000668036619727.post-85039894571116361192014-01-04T05:42:19.875-05:002014-01-04T05:42:19.875-05:00Yes, Rowling is really good at it--and she was abl...Yes, Rowling is really good at it--and she was able to foreshadow multiple novels ahead!<br /><br />Ned was awesome, I thought. And as much as I hated him taking the blame, I hated Joffrey even more--it was the double-gut punch. Now I know better than to trust Martin (in a good way).JeffOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07947660745120963286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281000668036619727.post-55929422837196390722014-01-04T05:40:51.341-05:002014-01-04T05:40:51.341-05:00It's a fine line a writer has to walk--you can...It's a fine line a writer has to walk--you can't make it so obvious that people are saying, "Yeah, yeah" the whole time, but it does have to be evident in hindsight. I think a lot also of 'The Sixth Sense', which did this really well. I would much prefer to have seen enough hints earlier in 'Frozen' so that I would have been questioning his motives all along--it actually ups the tension earlier, but can still give you that "No way!" moment.JeffOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07947660745120963286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281000668036619727.post-62345249887912696862014-01-04T00:00:45.093-05:002014-01-04T00:00:45.093-05:00J K Rowling is a master of foreshadowing. It makes...J K Rowling is a master of foreshadowing. It makes rereads on novels even more enjoyable.<br /><br />And I loved Ned!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281000668036619727.post-18217005601758326882014-01-03T22:54:14.109-05:002014-01-03T22:54:14.109-05:00I completely agree. Foreshadowing is essential bef...I completely agree. Foreshadowing is essential before a plot twist or big character reveal. You need the audience/readers going "Ah-ha" and nodding their heads, not going "Say whaaaa??" It's like leaving breadcrumbs in the forest to find your way back -- readers and viewers need hints to find the path, too.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07735576044552810103noreply@blogger.com