tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281000668036619727.post880768295521923352..comments2023-10-30T05:46:59.343-04:00Comments on The Doubting Writer: Casual MisogynyJeffOhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07947660745120963286noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281000668036619727.post-26829673564810155202012-04-21T23:37:27.943-04:002012-04-21T23:37:27.943-04:00Don't worry about saying too much - this isn&#...Don't worry about saying too much - this isn't twitter, there's no character limit.<br /><br />I feel for teachers. I imagine it's tough trying to decide when to let kids sort things out among themselves and when to step in. This is veering off the topic a little, but I feel like there's a movement nowadays to tag *everything* as bullying and deal with it with detentions and suspensions.JeffOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07947660745120963286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281000668036619727.post-65525924540046284372012-04-21T12:37:39.289-04:002012-04-21T12:37:39.289-04:00This is a close call, either way.This is a close call, either way.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04283371140346602856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281000668036619727.post-52278555900568075262012-04-21T07:27:20.213-04:002012-04-21T07:27:20.213-04:00This is a tough one. For the most part I think ...This is a tough one. For the most part I think 'meh, whatever'. If someone wants to make juvenile comments like that, it's not going to hurt me or bother me. On the other hand I do worry about the effect those kinds of statements have on kids - because they don't realize it's juvenile and silly. They look up to the people making the comments and creating the pictures in the paper. They believe them. <br /><br />As a teacher I see these kinds of name calling/incidents on the school yard all the time. It's an extremely common belief that's it's more than okay to insult a boy by calling him a girl. That really bothers me. It does perpetuate the belief that males are better/stronger/tougher & that females are somehow less.<br /><br />Having said all that (and sorry to say so much!!), I tend to watch the game and ignore the rest :)Jemi Fraserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02214408467456320167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281000668036619727.post-31732726466627542622012-04-21T07:20:06.283-04:002012-04-21T07:20:06.283-04:00I'd never seen the Victorino thing, either bec...I'd never seen the Victorino thing, either because I don't follow baseball or because I don't live close to either NYC or Philly, but I did see it referenced somewhere recently.<br /><br />"that's been the norm my whole life...it IS true that all of these...are really an insult to women." Because of the first part of this, we don't really think about the second part.<br /><br />I feel my follow-up post starting to get away from me already.....JeffOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07947660745120963286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281000668036619727.post-26382858515632673132012-04-21T07:14:11.248-04:002012-04-21T07:14:11.248-04:00It's not so much about the game as about what&...It's not so much about the game as about what's being said. As I said in the post, I've said and heard a lot of nasty things 'in the heat of battle', and then shaken hands with the other team after the game. To use the phrase from 'The Godfather', it's not personal, it's business. Honestly, I think whatever these guys say to each other on the ice, field, etc., should stay there. It's statements from the likes of Milbury, pictures like the Tribune's, that I really question here, and the message it sends, both to girls and boys.JeffOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07947660745120963286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281000668036619727.post-91377552704430995252012-04-20T21:20:27.800-04:002012-04-20T21:20:27.800-04:00I don't follow hockey but I did see this on th...I don't follow hockey but I did see this on the news. My first thought would be to say calling some dude a girl is not a bad thing in and of itself. I know some girls, including myself, that could probably kick his ass. We're tough, so it's exactly an insult. But overall, who really give a flying *#$& anyway? It's a game, nothing more. Games are competitive, and when something is competitive, insults get thrown. It's human nature. So what's the big deal, really?Nancy Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05735642863696266005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281000668036619727.post-44850520276458533072012-04-20T16:55:58.775-04:002012-04-20T16:55:58.775-04:00I'm a hockey fan + most of my friends are guys...I'm a hockey fan + most of my friends are guys = I "talk like a guy" when it comes to sports. Go figure.<br /><br />Now, can I see these terms being a problem for other women? Of course, and you know what? They're welcome to contest it. We pick and choose our own battles--this one just isn't mine. I'm not offended.<br /><br />Have a great weekend, Jeff! :)Carrie Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01540590799406170410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281000668036619727.post-90509155085558702442012-04-20T09:58:01.895-04:002012-04-20T09:58:01.895-04:00Oh and yeah, the irony of Berube holding someone b...Oh and yeah, the irony of Berube holding someone back from a scuffle was so not lost on me!!!!Lisa Reganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12899014095250160853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281000668036619727.post-36991412459405984822012-04-20T09:57:30.374-04:002012-04-20T09:57:30.374-04:00Hmm . . . that's a good one. By the way, in 2...Hmm . . . that's a good one. By the way, in 2009 when the Phillies played the Yankees in the world series there was an almost identical photo of Phillies' Shane Victorino wearing a miniskirt in one of the New York papers so apparently urban trash papers like to do this sort of thing. My first reaction is to say so what? I have never found any of it particularly offensive but maybe just because that's been the norm for my whole life. I mean it IS true that all of this news reporting and all these comments thrown around are really an insult to women. I mean I do think it is wrong to associate female with stuff that denotes cowardice. Cowardice is cowardice. Strength? *Sigh* well that's a discussion for another day. Obviously, females are biologically not built the same as men but there are many different kinds of strength! Is the casual misogyny a problem? Like I said, I'm not really offended by it but I can definitely see how others would be. I think a truer gauge of just how misogynistic these men are would be their one on one interactions with actual women.Lisa Reganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12899014095250160853noreply@blogger.com